Steve Dolezal
Product Engineering Manager
Columbia Steel Casting Co., Inc.
(800) 547-9471
Steve Dolezal has been a crusher wear parts engineer at Columbia Steel for 21 years. His knowledge includes a wide variety of jaw, cone and roll crusher makes and models, as well as their specific industry applications and equipment conditions. He works closely with customers to recommend and develop wear parts to better meet their needs, often resulting in increased service life, throughput, or both. Doug Henderson will answer questions about gyratory crusher wear parts with his expertise as a product engineer at Columbia Steel for over 10 years.
Obsolete bowl liners?
Posted by Tim from Perth, OT, AU on June 21, 2007
I am in Australia and have bought some new surplus bowl liners from a mining company. Do you know if they are obsolete parts or still in demand? Hope you can help. Thank you in advance.
Part number is 4830-7378 7′ SH-M bowl liner XT510 material.
Although the part is not of Columbia Steel’s manufacture, it is still a viable part. We make that bowl liner and still have a few users of that profile.
That bowl liner is classified as a “medium crushing liner -- long conventional”. It’s most commonly used with mantle OEM # 5013-9268. The optimum sizing range for this liner set is reducing 3.000-inch top size material with a blend of 2.000-inch x 1.000-inch mean size at .250-inch to .500-inch discharge setting.
The only odd lot consideration of the use of this part is that it fits “fine” bowl frames only. The majority of Symons crusher bowl frames are of the “coarse” variety. So those surplus liners you got a hold of will have a more limited range of use, simply due to what bowl frame they fit.
We’ve made available several different subsequent profiles for 7-foot Symons S.H. cones that are designed to work in that sizing range, and which react differently to different materials and offer more extended life spans than the profile we’re discussing here. However, the short answer to your question is: yes, that is still a viable liner profile, although not optimum for every application -- and take care with which bowl frame it fits.
Eccentricity of Jaw Crusher Shaft
Posted by Dambula from Choma, OT, ZM on June 16, 2007
I am writing to inquire to find out the suitable eccentric stroke for a 12″x7″ jaw crusher. Is there a guideline for determining the eccentricity of the shaft for a particular size crusher?
A review of our master parts catalog shows there are nearly 50 models of crushers in that approximate size range, with few likely sharing a common mainshaft eccentric stroke. Each manufacturer of these machines will incorporate their own eccentric geometry, relative to the depth of their crushing chamber, toggle position and length, power and speed chosen to run the crusher, and the overall stoutness of the crusher’s construction. With the variables that can be incorporated into a jaw crusher, we don’t believe a “standard” for eccentricity exists, except within a given manufacturers own standards. That is -- crusher manufacturers Cedarapids and Kue-Ken will have different views than Metso.
You’ve described a rather small crusher. Normal callout for crusher sizing is that the first number stands for the feed opening and the second number calls out the width. The smaller number generally comes first and identifies the feed opening, although several manufacturer and model exceptions exist. If you’re dealing with a specific model crusher, you’d best contact the manufacturer for their prescribed eccentric specifications.
To address your question as asked -- if one were to build a crusher with a 12.000-inch feed opening and a 7.000-inch width (not typical order of dimensions), the depth should be 30.000-inches minimum (creating an odd sized crusher), with an eccentric of 1.000-inch (2.000-inch stroke). That’s where we’d start with what we’ve seen. A good deal of the “action” of the crusher can be altered by the length and position of the toggle plate, relative to the chosen stroke.
There are a lot of variables that go into the design of a jaw crusher, and calling for a standard stroke for given sizes isn’t something that can be arrived at. Further discussion of your question would be in order to offer a more specific and relative answer.
Manganese Content
Posted by Michael from Kansas City, MO, US on June 5, 2007
What factors are to be taken into consideration when selecting Mn content in cones parts?
The reason I ask is that I have heard the more abrasive the material the lower the Mn content you should have, i.e. high abrasion = low Mn content and high compressive strength = high Mn content.
Though perhaps not your intent, there are two subjects in this inquiry.
Let's start by noting that the manganese element content is relative to the carbon content. We've found a considerable inter-relationship between manganese and carbon content of wear steel, especially as it applies to fatigue resistance of crusher parts.
Regarding manganese content, we've been able to amass some useful generalizations regarding application of high alloy manganese. It goes like this:
The best use of high alloy manganese comes when the material being crushed is at a mid-point between low and high compressive strength values, along with low and high silica contents. The low end of that scale is 20k p.s.i. compressive strength and .2 silica content; the high end of that scale is 80k p.s.i. compressive strength and .8 silica content. This allows maximum advantage for use of high alloy manganese with materials at 50k p.s.i. with a .5 silica content. Any deviation in either value, in either direction, alters the degree of gain or loss in the successful application of the high alloy material.
We drew those conclusions from a customer site where we doubled the service life of jaw dies over conventional 12% manganese. At the low end of the scale, low silica and strength values don't allow the manganese to work harden enough to improve wear rates. The high end values will overcome the manganese steel's ability to resist fatigue and fail before they are fully expended.
To reply to your question as presented -- the more abrasive the material being crushed, the higher carbon levels are in order, such as those in high hardness carbon steels, or high hardness irons. The crushing of very high compressive strength materials is best suited to conventional 12% manganese content levels with low carbon values of under 1.0. This concurs with the original principle of crushed materials somewhere between those extremes optimizes the application of high manganese and carbon wear alloys.
The development of better wearing manganese is an evolutionary process. In another 20 years, there'll be a different set of numbers in ratio that optimize crusher wear materials.
Cracking Jaw Toggle Plate
Posted by mark from louisiana, MO, US on May 22, 2007
We have a Universal 4848 Jaw we have ran for almost 30 years. We had no problems until about 2 years ago with the toggle plate. It has developed a crack at the same place 4 times. The crack is on the lower end at the toggle seat on the upper right hand side looking from behind the pitman. Do you have any ideas what could be causing this failure. All bearings were replaced in 1991. Also, what are your thoughts on the end bars, should they be slightly rounded or square?
Good questions. Let me respond to your questions about the toggle plate and the end bars separately -
First, you've got a fine old machine there and it's likely well worth the effort to uncover what ails the toggle plate issue. The same form of breakage on four occasions would seem to be something beyond coincidence.
A good place to start would be a thorough check of how square and parallel the main frame is, both to itself and relative to the pitman. It'd be best to measure the frame for being square to itself, then check the pitman to itself for being flat and square.
Measure the location of the toggle plate to the frame. Since it sounds like the t-plate is being loaded more on one side than the other, static measurements need to be taken of the t-plate location while the plates are not in the crusher. For example, the pitman could be square to the stationary side frame, but not necessarily to the toggling side. Anything more than .150 inches out of square or plane of the overall dimensions will need to be corrected.
We've seen a number of jaw crusher frames go out of square and become trapezoids, rather than the square cornered rectangle they started out as. Corrections to bent frames can be accomplished with hydraulic pressing and external structural reinforcing. We've seen external "girdles" used to surround the perimeter of the crusher frame.
Pick your own uniform surfaces to measure to. You could start by checking the pitman to the frame that the stationary jaw is mounted to, and then work the other way to insure that the pitman is also square to the toggle block and back of the frame. That's a good place to start, and then determine how to correct any error you find will be dependent on where any discrepancies are found.
My recollection is that this model has a single pitman tension spring, so uneven spring tensions shouldn't be an issue. Something bent is more likely. We've seen dual tension spring crushers where the spring pressures weren't maintained well enough in order and resulted in problems similar to the ones you describe. It turns out that just because a spring is set at the correct height, that doesn't mean it's applying the proper pressure. The thorough measuring of your crusher is a good place to start in determining your toggle plate problem.
Regarding the bearings on your crusher, the short reply is -- the larger the end radius, the better. Here's a little background: toggle plates started out as an "over scienced" crusher component, that ended up being the victim of the accountants' sword for several manufacturers. Universal Engineering Corp. is one of the manufacturers that really got caught up in both ends of this mess, although several other manufacturers are in the same boat.
Originally toggle plates started out with an "s" shaped profile and ball type ends. This was done to theoretically provide proper loading of the bearing surfaces of both the plate and seat. The only way to economically produce this shape was as a casting. These parts were typically made of cast iron and intended to serve as a "fuse" (so to
speak) for potential overloads on jaw crushers.
As time went on and the cost of producing patterns and castings increased, someone at the original Lippmann Engineering Works determined that a flat carbon steel plate could be developed to break in a fashion similar enough to the time tested s-plate, but at a much lower cost. Other crusher manufacturers took up with this rocker type t-plate trend and followed suit. The downside, however, was coming up with a way to attach a "ball" type end that would fit existing toggle seat configurations. That wasn't feasible, hence the development of a larger end radius plate and accompanying seat. This was called the "rocker" type t-plate and seat assembly.
Providing a large end radius on a flat plate part was pretty easy, either as a casting or as a carbon steel plate fabrication. For example, if you have a 2" inch thick plate, you machine a 5 degree by 1.000 inch taper to both sides of the end of a plate and blend the intersect point either by hand or further machining. You make a matching radius seat and you're in business.
We've found that a carbon steel plate bearing against a manganese seat burnishes and laps in the best to make plates and seats a viable working friction surface. We've even seen an old trick of soaking a burlap sack in gear oil and placing that between the seat and plate to quiet things down. Fact is, the whole principle is pretty much a stone age technology. This has been improved upon with the advent of hydraulic t-plates available from a couple different manufacturers.
There you have it: toggle plate designs really "just kind of happened". Universal Engineering got caught in the parts availability mess of whether particular crushers had rocker ends or ball ends available in the seats and plates for the last change-out. We know they've got to be compatible, so we have to offer all combinations. Again, our preferences are carbon steel rocker plates with large radius ends and compatible manganese seats -- that will burnish and lap themselves together -- for the longest possible run.
Chrome Carbide overlay plates inside crushers, impactors, feeders, ….
Posted by Ali from Hamilton, ON, CA on May 11, 2007
I am wondering which area are you using chrome carbide overlay plates ?
Frankly, we've not adopted or applied that process of wear surface protection. We've seen it applied successfully in some areas exposed to sliding abrasion. However, our customers have not presented to us enough instances of that kind of wear to have warranted the application of that technology.




